NS Cliches: Rebooted

by **Meadowfields** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:04 pm

Gandoor wrote:Last post
by Guest
31 Dec 1969, 20:00

Yeah, I think those are tests. They are weird as fuck though...

by **Gandoor** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:53 pm

Meadowfields wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Last post
by Guest
31 Dec 1969, 20:00

Yeah, I think those are tests. They are weird as fuck though...

No, they're not tests.

They're just deleted posts that, for one reason or another, still show in the forums, but since they no longer have any information associated with them, they just default to being posted by 'Guest' at a posting time of 1 January 1970 00:00 UTC (AKA the start of the Unix time).

by **Meadowfields** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:38 pm

Gandoor wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:Yeah, I think those are tests. They are weird as fuck though...

No, they're not tests.

They're just deleted posts that, for one reason or another, still show in the forums, but since they no longer have any information associated with them, they just default to being posted by 'Guest' at a posting time of 1 January 1970 00:00 UTC (AKA the start of the Unix time).

Oh...that's weird...

by **Meadowfields** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:21 pm

"Most users ever online was 590 on Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:55 pm"
What happened that day...

by **Gandoor** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:16 pm

Meadowfields wrote:"Most users ever online was 590 on Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:55 pm"
What happened that day...

First zombie event, it was the April Fools' minigame that year.

by **Meadowfields** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:17 pm

Gandoor wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:"Most users ever online was 590 on Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:55 pm"
What happened that day...

First zombie event, it was the April Fools' minigame that year.

Oh, okay.

by **Gandoor** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:19 pm

Yeah back when that was a fun minigame and not boring because it's been done every single year since then.

by **Aionios Rhomania** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:52 pm

We need a new Halloween event, still waiting for those damn aliens to show up.

by **Neo-Western East Korea** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:31 pm

Aren’t the ayy’s hidden in issues?

by **Broader Confederate States** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:33 pm

Here's a time-tested cliché: infodumping. It's one I'm struggling with right now as I try to update BCS to 2022 standards. How do I make it not suck? I want to provide plenty of backstory, but I want to draw people in while still providing a myriad of angles and a diverse palette of problems for my future states to split over.
Especially for those who don't use NationStates -- I'm trying to adapt BCS' rewrite into an anthology about the history of, and life in, North America circa 100 years from today but Book I Chapter 1 is turning out to be a snore, with four minutes of agonizingly dull recounting facts the reader will be well acquainted with if they're interested in this kind of thing.

by **Aionios Rhomania** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:45 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Here's a time-tested cliché: infodumping. It's one I'm struggling with right now as I try to update BCS to 2022 standards. How do I make it not suck? I want to provide plenty of backstory, but I want to draw people in while still providing a myriad of angles and a diverse palette of problems for my future states to split over.
Especially for those who don't use NationStates -- I'm trying to adapt BCS' rewrite into an anthology about the history of, and life in, North America circa 100 years from today but Book I Chapter 1 is turning out to be a snore, with four minutes of agonizingly dull recounting facts the reader will be well acquainted with if they're interested in this kind of thing.

Had you try to make a narrative with it?

Add bits and pieces that make it sound like a biased source trying to add their own flair?

by **Gothian Crimea** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:53 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:-snip-

My old region, PCMPCMPCM[/quote]
PCM, for the crime of "being fascist", by ANTIFA.
A: The only thing I can think of that would lump the entire region into that is that we follow Westphalian Soverienty for nation making.
B: We never raided or basically did anything on NS, mostly re Rps off site the raid thus didn't effect us too much, but it still was annoying).
C:

Edit: How tf did I jump to that commend. Know what, I wont even ask. Wait nvm, I'm retarded af, just the first page.

by **Gothian Crimea** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:54 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Here's a time-tested cliché: infodumping. It's one I'm struggling with right now as I try to update BCS to 2022 standards. How do I make it not suck? I want to provide plenty of backstory, but I want to draw people in while still providing a myriad of angles and a diverse palette of problems for my future states to split over.
Especially for those who don't use NationStates -- I'm trying to adapt BCS' rewrite into an anthology about the history of, and life in, North America circa 100 years from today but Book I Chapter 1 is turning out to be a snore, with four minutes of agonizingly dull recounting facts the reader will be well acquainted with if they're interested in this kind of thing.

Images can be good. Show them. Give a picture of what the city looked like, it can be more effective and less boring than a text description.

by **Gandoor** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:57 pm

GIF flags used to have to be teeny tiny on this site.

by **Gothian Crimea** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:58 pm

Gandoor wrote:GIF flags used to have to be teeny tiny on this site.

Don't they still have to be, at least in terms of file size.

by **Gandoor** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:00 pm

Gothian Crimea wrote:
Gandoor wrote:GIF flags used to have to be teeny tiny on this site.

Don't they still have to be, at least in terms of file size.

Yeah under 150 kilobytes.

But they used to have to be under 50 kilobytes and fit within...I believe it was 107x50-something pixels.

Goddamn tiny.

by **Broader Confederate States** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:01 pm

Aionios Rhomania wrote:
Broader Confederate States wrote:
Here's a time-tested cliché: infodumping. It's one I'm struggling with right now as I try to update BCS to 2022 standards. How do I make it not suck? I want to provide plenty of backstory, but I want to draw people in while still providing a myriad of angles and a diverse palette of problems for my future states to split over.
Especially for those who don't use NationStates -- I'm trying to adapt BCS' rewrite into an anthology about the history of, and life in, North America circa 100 years from today but Book I Chapter 1 is turning out to be a snore, with four minutes of agonizingly dull recounting facts the reader will be well acquainted with if they're interested in this kind of thing.

Had you try to make a narrative with it?

Add bits and pieces that make it sound like a biased source trying to add their own flair?

I mean, my tone of writing already adds some snark and sarcasm into the mix, but while I considered it, I just started writing without doing so. I'll see if I can refactor it, but I'll probably end up cutting most of it out. I want to justify the shooty bits, though, and I feel like cutting too much of it would do them a disservice.

Gandoor wrote:
Gothian Crimea wrote:Don't they still have to be, at least in terms of file size.

Yeah under 150 kilobytes.

But they used to have to be under 50 kilobytes and fit within...I believe it was 107x50-something pixels.

Goddamn tiny.

I feel like SatoSere had a really low quality flag that would fit in that size constraint, but maybe not...

by **Malaiya Union** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:07 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Here's a time-tested cliché: infodumping. It's one I'm struggling with right now as I try to update BCS to 2022 standards. How do I make it not suck? I want to provide plenty of backstory, but I want to draw people in while still providing a myriad of angles and a diverse palette of problems for my future states to split over.
Especially for those who don't use NationStates -- I'm trying to adapt BCS' rewrite into an anthology about the history of, and life in, North America circa 100 years from today but Book I Chapter 1 is turning out to be a snore, with four minutes of agonizingly dull recounting facts the reader will be well acquainted with if they're interested in this kind of thing.

Biased narrative, big images that explains, general conclusion on the top area, and perhaps a little bit of controversial opening like my Afrikan Staat project.

by **Malaiya Union** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:10 pm

Malaiya Union wrote:
Broader Confederate States wrote:
Here's a time-tested cliché: infodumping. It's one I'm struggling with right now as I try to update BCS to 2022 standards. How do I make it not suck? I want to provide plenty of backstory, but I want to draw people in while still providing a myriad of angles and a diverse palette of problems for my future states to split over.
Especially for those who don't use NationStates -- I'm trying to adapt BCS' rewrite into an anthology about the history of, and life in, North America circa 100 years from today but Book I Chapter 1 is turning out to be a snore, with four minutes of agonizingly dull recounting facts the reader will be well acquainted with if they're interested in this kind of thing.

Biased narrative, big images that explains, general conclusion on the top area, and perhaps a little bit of controversial opening like my Afrikan Staat project.

...So I guess, structure things like a news article. I mean when I think about it, news articles are optimized to keep reader's attention, which is probably why my factbooks increasingly look like one.

by **Drongonia** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:24 am

An annoying cliche (although niche)

Most nation names corresponding to irl nations, or at least ones I'd like to use (Scotland, Australia, New Zealand and more) are "ancient" and permanently used by people who haven't logged on for years. I'd genuinely like to take, for example, New Zealand, and try to make both a factbook recreation of the government's website and a canon which is an alt-reality but still realistic version of the country.

Very niche I know, but still annoying and fairly commonplace within the "realistic MT nation" niche

by **Drongonia** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:33 am

Cliche above

by **Gandoor** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:35 am

Drongonia wrote:An annoying cliche (although niche)

Most nation names corresponding to irl nations, or at least ones I'd like to use (Scotland, Australia, New Zealand and more) are "ancient" and permanently used by people who haven't logged on for years. I'd genuinely like to take, for example, New Zealand, and try to make both a factbook recreation of the government's website and a canon which is an alt-reality but still realistic version of the country.

Very niche I know, but still annoying and fairly commonplace within the "realistic MT nation" niche

It's funny that you mention New Zealand as one you'd genuinely like to take when that player just CTE'd 15 days ago lol.

(Also IIRC this has been a topic that's been brought up before in Technical like 'release real country names that haven't been used in years even if they're over the population limit' but the mods have said that all that will happen is the same thing that happened when they first released nation names: a bunch of them will just end up snatched by like one or two players.)

by **Gandoor** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:36 am

Drongonia wrote:Cliche above

It ain't even a good trolling attempt either tbh.

by **Frisemark** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:36 am

Ignore the troll above. I already made a report, mod action will come eventually.

Cliche of people's nation having dogshit tier public transport and very car-dependent infrastructure.

by **Drongonia** » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:38 am

Frisemark wrote:Ignore the troll above. I already made a report, mod action will come eventually.

Cliche of people's nation having dogshit tier public transport and very car-dependent infrastructure.

ahah.... hah...

shutupidugmyselfintoaholewheremycarindustryismassivesoicantexactlywipeitoutnowcani? idontwanttodealwithhighunemploymentandatankingeconomynow

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